Please Watch in High Quality!!!! Which Child Would Jesus Hit? There are several childcare experts out there publishing books on how to push the limits between discipline and abuse. I am talking about well known authors such as Tripp, the Pearls, Lessin, Dobson, and others. Several of them advocate things which would unquestionably raise bruises which would result in removal by child services for breaking the law. Especially Lessin. For those reading these books, I would greatly recommend the author Clay Clarkson of Heartfelt Discipline. He was a former bible thumping child whipper who did his own in-depth study and discovered for himself that Christ never advocated hitting children into obedience or in any fashion. He has now written a book on how to raise children in patience and love as Christ intended. I would also recommend those interested in the long term effects of Lessin’s disciplinary tactics to read An Open Letter to Roy Lessin. This is easy enough to find on Google. My objective is to raise awareness of the fact that this country allows children to be hit repeatedly with pretty much anything a parent can get his hands on and to point out the fiction behind many myths used to support hitting children. First ask yourself, “Which Child Would Jesus Hit?” If your answer contains a list of dictators such as Sadamm, his sons Uday and Qusay, Hitler, Stalin, and so forth, you should spend a few minutes on google to confirm that all these people were beaten as children.
#1 by MrWomanpower on April 21st, 2011
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@83iamme Your pastors were wrong.
#2 by MrWomanpower on April 21st, 2011
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@Prospank The “ROD” is from the OLD Testament. Christians are not supposed to follow Old Testament laws. If you do follow the Old Testament, then you also beat your servants.
#3 by 83iamme on April 21st, 2011
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Honestly I don’t think that spanking a child is abusive or an act of volence, but I do belive there are parents out there who cross the line and do abuse their children. A a Christian both my husband and I agree when we have children we will use spanking as a form of punishment, but it will always be the last resort if other punishments don’t work. Two of the pastors from my former church also talked openly in sermons about spanking their children. Are you going to tell me my PASTORS were wrong
#4 by spartanmfh on April 21st, 2011
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@atterolevad
Hmmm.. Masochists?
#5 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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In hebrews 12:09-10 we see a comparison being done between the chastising of our flesh by our earthly fathers and the non-violent chastising of God unto his children. in verse 10 it shows that the only form of chastisment that is profitable to the one receiving it is that which comes from God while that done unto our flesh by our fathers is not profitable to us but only feeds the pleasures of those that inflict it !
#6 by fabioKJV1611 on April 21st, 2011
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@Prospank
The true Jesus Christ never taught anyone to determine right from wrong based on feelings or “in their hearts”. Jeremiah told human heart is deceitful abouve all things and desperately wicked (Jer 17:9).
The true Jesus Christ never softened the Scriptures to please the crowd.
Obey Jesus Christ, obey the Holy Scriptures.
The Bible is right, the TV “specialists” are wrong. Repent, TV worshipers!
#7 by BroskieJeanCo on April 21st, 2011
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@EuphemiseThis So when Jesus in John 2:15 “made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables” I guess he was making the same example you talked about. Proverbs 13:24 is clear when it say “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.”
#8 by WTREPUBLICAN on April 21st, 2011
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I don’t like anybody saying bad things about Dr. Dobson or Pastor John Hagee. They know Jesus
#9 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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@TheUnknownchicken I have heard that argument but the truth is that proverbs does say to “beat ” them with the rod. however i do totally agree with you that kids need discipline and need to be taught that there are consequences for their actions. but never through violent means. People seem to get so caught up in salomon’s method that they forget the basic truth of the principal of it all.
#10 by TheUnknownchicken on April 21st, 2011
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@guidav123 Some believe that the word ‘rod’ does not mean a literial ‘rod” or weapon. some believe that is does but cannot be applied to today because we live in a different culture with different standards. It was written at a time when people were very violent.In the context of the whole bible I interpret the passage to mean that if you don’t disipline your kids when they do wrong, it will led to wrose problems.It wouldnt make sense in context of the whole bible if it permited beatings.
#11 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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@TheUnknownchicken what are you talking about? Im against corporal punishment all together there is no difference pointed out anywhere in scripture to lead one to the conclusion that there is some imaginary line somewhere between “discipline” as you call it and abuse. All forms of corpral punishment was allowed in the old testiment and all forms are discouraged in the new testiment.
#12 by TheUnknownchicken on April 21st, 2011
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@guidav123 I have a number of concerns about the passage in proverbs being used to justify beating up people. For one I think the bible basically says that children need to be disiplined. I don’t think proverbs permits parents to beat up their kids.
Morally, It would be assult to beat up a crimminal or a wife, or a person that speeds, or any adult. Logically, I assume based on other passages of scripture that the bible does not support the idea of using harse physical punishment on children.
#13 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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Corporal punishment is full of hipocracy and is not peacful or merciful and definitley not gentle so it can not be considered wisdom according to the new testiment’s definition of wisdom. james 3:17-18 but the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle,and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hipocracy. and the fruite of the riteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
#14 by drgregsgurl on April 21st, 2011
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No one should be hit, except in a necessary case of self defense. Parents who claim they are hitting their children because the bible says so, are liars. They do not sacrifice two turtles every time they menstruate, they do not stone their neighbors if they see them leaving for work on a Sunday morning, they do not kill everyone in town if they see someone praying at a different church though the bible demands all these things. Do not use the bible as an excuse for your poor parenting skills.
#15 by atterolevad on April 21st, 2011
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people need to realize that we are held to a different standard during the grace period . One can not justify any form of violence by anything that happened before or after the grace period.
#16 by atterolevad on April 21st, 2011
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violence deserves no respect. What kind of parent would want to teach there children to respect violence?
#17 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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people need tro understand that there is a totally different standard of conduct expected of christians during the grace period. One can not justify vilence during the grace period by anything before the grace period(old testiment) or after the grace period(end times) christ non-violent example is the only influence over our actions and thoughts.
#18 by generalcrash777 on April 21st, 2011
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@WariiorWolf
100 years ago, wives were chastized, not beaten. Physical chastizement of an arrent and disrespectful wife was the husband’s alibi. Also, oddly enough, The Bible was used and twisted to justify this behavior. Husbands felt it was within their Christian duty to discipline his wife. There’s a difference. I find it strange that a book that teaches peace (The Bible) is being used and twisted to justify the beating of children today. Now it is a crime to batter wives.
#19 by WariiorWolf on April 21st, 2011
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when I was young my mom used to spank me if I disobeyed. but she wouldn’t BEAT me. there’s a diference.
#20 by generalcrash777 on April 21st, 2011
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The file is called, “The Ugly Sounds of a Spanking.”
#21 by HUSKY57887 on April 21st, 2011
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Where did you get the audio clip the the kid being beaten?
#22 by guidav123 on April 21st, 2011
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there are many different interpretations of many things in the bible . This is why we have so many different denominations. and even within those denominations individual beleifs vary greatly on many things. it disgust me to think that so many people think that the christian community is all pro-spanking, we are not. there are lots and lots of christians that have seen the truth through scripture that spankings are not of GOd and are wrong. so stop thinking spankings are a christian practice.
#23 by PhDeverit on April 21st, 2011
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Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:
Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.
Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.
Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,
NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.
#24 by steffyb528 on April 21st, 2011
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Wow, these are some very good points, especially the one about the rod being used to guide sheep, not hit them.
#25 by mormongirl04 on April 21st, 2011
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There is no need for that kind of language on here. This is a Christian video that is posted to websites.