Isn’t that presuming that the only way to properly discipline children is with force, and anyone who doesn’t do that, doesn’t know how to keep children in line?

FYI: I have not given any TUs or TDs to any answer on this question.
except Jodie – TU :)

I guess its just that people can thumb other people down because of different opinions, it is not really important. People who thumb down other people just because they have adifferent opinions are childish and silly ( except for those who say bad things then thats a complete different thing)

I certainly do not support violence or abuse against children. But I think it is hard to distinguise between disciplinary smacking and real violence , it is up to the parents’ concience to carry this action out. I was spanked when I was about 8,9 by my mother. I was a bit " out of control " then , at the time, i really disliked it . But now thinking back my mother did it out of her love for me, and there were times when disciplining me, she was actually tearing. I would have become a spoilt, irresponsible person had she not done that.